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The saga continues! Rather than apologizing like an adult who cares about the deep traumas of others, LJS is "standing by" her analogy because, you know, she's the one who was raped and then blamed for it, so it's totally okay you guys. She's clearly more important than anyone else who has ever been raped.

And I quote: I should have been more straightforward in that interview. The victim I spoke of was myself, and I should have said that outright. There is a strong sentiment against speaking of rape at all, and this was not something I had previously shared with readers. I am sorry for disturbing anyone with the analogy, but I stand behind my right to make it--now that I have owned up to being the one who could compare the two experiences.

I just can't even... I quit you, LJS. I was going to give the future non-sequel works a shot, but I quit; she is a disgusting, self-centered person without even a basic sense of empathy or perspective and pretty much the exact antithesis of the strong female role models she claims to want to spread. I may or may not shut down DP. I'm not sure yet.


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Jun. 5th, 2011 06:20 pm (UTC)
I don't see it on her blog. Link so I know where to comment?
Jun. 5th, 2011 06:22 pm (UTC)
NM, found it on the guestbook.
Jun. 5th, 2011 08:11 pm (UTC)
I texted you this while I was out and about, but just in case it didn't go through, now that I'm back home: You may want to save yourself a copy of your comment, the admin is quite trigger-happy about comment deletion, and in one instance, IP banning. To be fair, he deleted the comments of the crazy "this is like losing a baby, won't anyone think of how LJ Smith feels?!" chick I responded to last night as WELL as my replies to her, but still. Heavy, heavy screening.
Jun. 6th, 2011 01:13 am (UTC)
... I was going to read some of her other books on her rec, but I'm taking that right off. Goodness.
Jun. 6th, 2011 01:14 am (UTC)
On a rec, is what I meant. Oy vey.
Jun. 6th, 2011 01:48 am (UTC)
There are some of her books that I'd still recommend, but get 'em used or from the library so she doesn't get the moneys. ^_^ Night of the Solstice and Heart of Valor are excellent kid lit in the vein of Narnia and nothing she ever says or does can change that for me, thankfully. They just got re-released recently so they should be easier to find now - they used to be the holy grail of fandom because they were her first books, and since they were kid lit rather than YA, they went out of print long before most fans discovered her writing, so "I've read Night of the Solstice" was like the badge of the hardcore fan.

I don't know what happened to the author that we all used to have amiable feelings towards though. I don't know if she had a stroke, if she was born again, or if she's suffering from some massive undiagnosed PTSD, but lady is CUHRAYZEE now.

Oh, and if you delve into the Vampire Diaries, which is the hot ticket right now, stop at Dark Reunion. It's the last good book in the series (aka the last one written in 1991). The rest were written like 15 years after the fact to cash in on the vampire craze and the TV show, and they are just AWFUL.
Jun. 6th, 2011 01:53 am (UTC)
I was recommended The Circle actually - how did you find that? But I do love my children's fantasy, and I was planning to just get the books at the library (though her books are pretty hot now, thanks to TVD), so maybe I'll try those out, at least!

I don't know if she had a stroke, if she was born again, or if she's suffering from some massive undiagnosed PTSD, but lady is CUHRAYZEE now.
D: Or maybe modern internet culture has just allowed more of her personality to come out in the open? IDK.

I do actually own the first TVD book (bought only because it was dead cheap and I needed airplane reading... even though I never actually got around to reading it *g*), but I'll definitely keep your words in mind! How do you find the TV show? I've got eps recorded, but no plans to watch it anytime soon. (For separate reasons not particularly related to the show.)
Jun. 6th, 2011 02:17 am (UTC)
The Secret Circle isn't bad - it gets a bit precious in parts, but there's a lot of really cool stuff in there too; it's very very loosely based in Arthurian myth, but only in the way the relationships play out, just gender-swapped (the heroine is sort of Lancelot-ing in on her best friend's boyfriend despite herself, and her best friend's arch-nemesis named HEY HER NAME IS FAYE plots to overthrow the best friend and seize control of the circle). It suffers somewhat from the "if you'd just fucking TELL people what you know, maybe the entire final act of the villain's behavior would be avoided!" syndrome, but lots of fiction is guilty of that trope. Like Vampire Diaries, it has a lot of really interesting characters who will probably keep you interested when the plot drags or irritates. Also, the books become extra hilarious when you realize that they are ALL INBRED AND RELATED because of the way the covens have been functioning, but it's okay because they're all magical or whatever. I often wonder if it was intentional on LJ Smith's part to have it be that way or if it just didn't occur to her that she wrote a lot of cousins marrying implicitly into the background, but either way it entertains me a LOT.

Really, any of her trilogies are pretty decent and have interesting characters doing cool stuff. There is a reason she had a devoted fan following for the entire decade that she disappeared from the literary world (and why she lost a lot of them when she came back a lunatic). A lot of people also really like her Nightworld series, which is a serial rather than a trilogy, but I find it to be her weakest work (well, with the exception of the new TVD books, obviously). Also she's been "still writing" the final book in the Nightworld series for about 15 years now, so god help you if you actually end up liking NW and get invested in it and want to know how the final battle ends.

As for the Vampire Diaries TV show, well, my very bitter and unpleasant thoughts are better left unsaid; it was a big mess when it happened and a lot of bullshit was fed to book fans and a lot of schisms between friends (and so-called friends, in some cases) were created as a result, so it's not a topic I enjoy talking about. Suffice to say that if Kevin Williamson and Julie Plec (the show creators, more or less) were on fire, I would neither extinguish them nor call the fire department. :)
Jun. 6th, 2011 01:44 am (UTC)
I have a feeling the people at HarperCollins are slapping each other on the back and congratulating themselves on a job well-done in getting rid of her. She's toxic to everything around her.
Jun. 6th, 2011 01:48 am (UTC)
Seriously. I wonder if this'll affect her contract with S&S for Strange Fate, which she still hasn't finished writing.
Jun. 6th, 2011 01:51 am (UTC)
They're probably picking over that contract with a fine-toothed comb looking for some minor infraction they can cut her loose on. Or at least, that's what I would be doing if I worked there.
Jun. 6th, 2011 02:20 am (UTC)
I keep wanting to hunt down whoever her handler at Harper is/was and buy them a drink, or send them a gift basket or SOMEthing, and the same for her S&S people. My god, I can't even imagine. They need a hug.
Jun. 6th, 2011 02:32 am (UTC)
Well she said her editor was now the writer, right? There's got to be a way to find that out once the books come out. Although, knowing LJS, she'll probably name names so that her "loyal fans" can find this poor woman and ruin her life.
Jun. 6th, 2011 02:37 am (UTC)
She already named her in another guestbook comment. I think she said Carol? I don't even remember anymore, I was trolling through the guestbook looking for interesting comments on matters of canon (which I did find a few of, hidden amidst the self-congratulatory "thanks for kissing my butt" replies and other useless stuff). And she cried about how Carol didn't even write her an apology letter when she was appointed the ghostwriter or whatever, because I THOUGHT YOU WERE MY FRIEEEEND. And to be fair, if LJS hadn't been acting batshit crazy for a very long time now, I would totally sympathize - I too would want a "hey, them's the breaks, I can't turn this gig down because I need this job but I'm really sorry and I'll do my best" courtesy letter at least. But, you know, CRAZY.

Thankfully she had the presence of mind not to mention the poor woman's last name.
Jun. 6th, 2011 02:41 am (UTC)
I saw how she said that they were bffs until the breakup but I didn't see a name. Maybe she took it out because she thought that might be a good- Oh who am I kidding?

Carol probably had to change her phone number. :/

Jun. 6th, 2011 02:50 am (UTC)
Oh god, I actually laughed aloud when I "heard" that series of voicemails in my head; it sounds terrifyingly plausible. My poor cat, she was startled by the sudden noise. I've definitely missed you.
Jun. 6th, 2011 02:54 am (UTC)
Heh. I've missed you too! In times of tragedy, we must bond together.

Jun. 6th, 2011 04:25 pm (UTC)
I still wonder if she's had a stroke or something. Like, a minor one, so tiny it was undiagnosed. It would explain why her writing still contains LJS-isms but is like a terrible imitation of the original, and why she's acting irrationally and seemingly without a filter. But then again, maybe I'm just underestimating the power of stupid. Who knows.


(I think we need to find Carol at HarperTeen and send her flowers and a good luck card. You totes have the publisher hookup, don't you? YOU KNOW EVERYONE, RIGHT?)
Jun. 6th, 2011 05:46 pm (UTC)
Well, I gave the rolodex a good spin but there's no Carol coming up under HarperCollins. It gave me a chance to weed it out though!

Poor LJS, you really have wonder what happened in those ten years she was gone that broke her brain so completely. :(
Jun. 7th, 2011 05:37 am (UTC)
If you look into the sad tale of crazy Robia LaMorte, the actress from Buffy who later became a completely insane born-again, you'll find the same sort of complete personality change. It's all the brainwashing that does it.
Jun. 7th, 2011 05:46 am (UTC)
Man, that is disturbing and crazy. Jesus should not be a boot camp, y'all.

But the sheer crazy of recent events have actually gotten us all chatting again, if only to talk smack and be outraged, so... silver lining?
Jun. 6th, 2011 04:02 am (UTC)
That's one thing she seems to be totally forgetting. LJS, you've already lost one gig. (Potentially two, since SC is with Harper/Alloy.) You might want to go the professional route and NOT FUCK UP the contracts you still have. Publisher B generally doesn't like it when you act batshit crazy towards Publisher A, because they're thinking "How long until she pulls this on us?"
Jun. 6th, 2011 04:34 pm (UTC)
Yeah, anything in the media/creative fields needs to be treated like romantic relationships. You do NOT complain about your ex to your new flame unless your new flame also knew your ex and agreed that s/he was nuts. It's something I've watched and learned working on LOJ, talking to different venues and whatnot. A lot of them ask why you're leaving your old venue, and how you answer REALLY determines the relationship. I mean, they may give you the space anyway, but if you're all "I'm leaving because they were total nozzles and I fucking hate them and they suck!" the new venue is gonna think "Well gee, are you going to talk about ME that way to the NEXT place you book?"

Networking is so very important in any career, but especially in the creative careers that a lot of people don't consider necessary and where a lot of people are standing behind you hoping you stumble so they can jump out in front of you and start THEIR career. You just don't wanna burn bridges. You cry to your friends, you complain to your family, you throw little tantrums in the privacy of your own home, you hug a cat, you go punch things at the gym... or at least that's MY personal coping method for shitty/unreasonable clients... and then you get back on the phone/computer/whatever with the client and smile and say "Yes, I completely understand your concerns and I am so sorry that you're unhappy. Let's work together to fix this." instead of "WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? HOW DID YOU THINK THIS WAS GOING TO WORK? THIS IS TOTALLY ALL YOUR FAULT, WHY AM I BEING BLAMED?"
Jun. 6th, 2011 06:26 pm (UTC)
Exactly. Job hunting is similar. The less detail, the better. Just tell Potential New Employer that you're looking for new opportunities or something. Insulting your previous employer almost never gets you anywhere.

Authors really need to stop oversharing. They may think it builds a rapport between them and their fans, but it can also come back to haunt them. Be friendly, be civil, but keep business as business.

Suddenly, going back to school and becoming a translator or teacher or something is looking like a far saner career choice than attempting to be published.
Jun. 6th, 2011 08:22 pm (UTC)
Nah, if you get published, just run stuff by me if you're not sure, and NEVER go onto fan sites or read fan reviews in places where it's possible to respond, because by god you'll be tempted to, and way too many authors have been caught riding a big ole dramallama as a result. Or once you get big enough your publisher will probably assign you a PR person and they'll take good care of you (and if they don't, I will!). Your blog posts will be witty, reflective of the public portion of your real life, accessible, and fun to read without giving too much of you away. If something bad happens, there'll be enough information that fans can understand what's going on (and sympathize) but not so much that it's creepy overly personal oversharing. We'll make sure of it. ^_^

So GO GET PUBLISHED! You can do it, and you deserve it.
Jun. 6th, 2011 11:17 pm (UTC)
Any time I'd go to blog or tweet, I'd just end up emailing it to you first and say "Naaaaat, am I going to annoy, alienate, or upset anyone with this?"

And I will get a cat. Because authors have cats.
Jun. 15th, 2011 11:56 pm (UTC)
This is the first I've heard about LJS in years. This depresses me...
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